tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post1777016545713312574..comments2023-10-25T03:40:54.655-07:00Comments on Neth Space: Someone Disagrees With Me on the InternetNethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16963540055415924510noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-21824674252552488452014-02-16T17:04:24.223-07:002014-02-16T17:04:24.223-07:00I have a tendency to be harsher on books that rece...I have a tendency to be harsher on books that receive almost unanimous acclaim, particularly if key elements are problematic. Ancillary Justice suffers from what is expected in a first novel. The pacing is off, information is too sparse at the beginning, then over-explained when it becomes obvious. But for me, the problems were secondary to what I felt was an innovative novel. Leckie dealt with more than gender. She dealt with language assumptions and I wish it did this more rather than not at all.<br /><br />But the criticism of this topic is a stagnate field. I sort of share in that sentiment, but would certainly not choose this novel as a precurser to the discussion. Maybe my expectations are just unrealistic.Peterhttp://oddengine.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-71043420234235066922014-02-15T21:51:12.642-07:002014-02-15T21:51:12.642-07:00Actually, in this case, cooler heads have prevaile...Actually, in this case, cooler heads have prevailed. And all seems to be well now. Nethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963540055415924510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-87433617761673769452014-02-15T21:38:44.519-07:002014-02-15T21:38:44.519-07:00I haven't read Ancillary Justice but Neth'...I haven't read Ancillary Justice but Neth's take reminds me of my experience with Egalia's Daughters. The story was unfortunately far less interesting than the message.<br /><br />I wouldn't worry about Twitter. Attempting to engage on such a restricted platform with a understandably/rightfully defensive group rarely works out well. That is a major reason for why I dis-engaged from Twitter.WordTippinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18242202749617102417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-52648439289351905762014-02-15T02:48:51.933-07:002014-02-15T02:48:51.933-07:00You shouldn't pay too much attention about the...You shouldn't pay too much attention about the crap people say against you on Twitter. . .<br /><br />That's what I do, anyway! ;-)Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16282597036862004865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-85856955129576736792014-02-14T19:45:50.092-07:002014-02-14T19:45:50.092-07:00This book is so controversial for reasons I would ...This book is so controversial for reasons I would have never figured out. It isn't because of the content, which isn't on its own, but rather the interpretation by various reviewers. <br /><br />There are the majority of reviews, which are either negative or positive but focus on the title at hand. But a few have crept in with a snotty air to them that seem to focus more on the public perception, and it is making for some nasty conversations.<br /><br />One side is saying those who don't like this book ,just don't get it.' On the other side are the people who didn't like it and then try to dictate why those who did, did (ie - you only liked it because you got fooled by the 'gimmick.')<br /><br />I saw plenty of both on twitter yesterday and wanted to bang my head against the desk.Nathan (@reviewbarn)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11708244950988794601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-89681215790155512302014-02-14T12:53:51.014-07:002014-02-14T12:53:51.014-07:00"apparently writing the review I did has regu..."apparently writing the review I did has regulated me to being just another male critic who doesn’t get it."<br /><br />It is that sad stance, or ones similar, that have kept me from writing similar posts to yours (not about Ancillary Justice, which I've not read). <br /><br />The popular opinion of anything that goes against the cultural grain is that anyone in disagreement is part of the "old guard", or is reacting out of "fear, because SFF is changing". <br /><br />So first what a person writes is taken out of context and imbued with meaning that was never intended, then the person is lambasted, then relegated to insignificant because this person is just another X that doesn't get it.<br /><br />So frustrating. And yet I don't feel like I can add anything to the conversation, at least not without being dismissed for being a whiny white anglo-saxon male.Carl V. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15948764216438379394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-9996525000469803832014-02-14T11:07:52.171-07:002014-02-14T11:07:52.171-07:00I haven't read Ancillary Justice, but I apprec...I haven't read <i>Ancillary Justice</i>, but I appreciate your engagement with the disagreement. It's civil instead of angry, which would discredit your thoughts.Victoria Van Vlearhttp://victoriavanvlear.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-86333289484442901282014-02-14T10:51:48.115-07:002014-02-14T10:51:48.115-07:00>> Not every book works for every reader. No...>> Not every book works for every reader. Not Hugo award winning books. Not "Canonical classics". NOTHING<<<br /><br />If only it were that easy, Paul.RobBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04014122096561992311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-90874376425193511162014-02-14T10:20:54.679-07:002014-02-14T10:20:54.679-07:00and now on Twitter come the charges of being disin...and now on Twitter come the charges of being disingenuous and worse. I'm derailing the discussion. Crying victim. Etc. <br /><br />Now's when I wish I could turn a computer screen into a mirror. <br /><br />But instead it's just time to sign off because anything productive in all this seems to be going out the window.Nethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963540055415924510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-31347360199552731342014-02-14T10:15:01.003-07:002014-02-14T10:15:01.003-07:00I agreed 100% with your review. I found the plot ...I agreed 100% with your review. I found the plot boring as hell, and had I not committed to reviewing AJ I would have given up 50 pages in. the prose style was so boring, that's what pissed me off the most.<br /><br />the gender thing didn't work at all for me either. I found it gimmicky, it left a bad taste in my mouth.<br /><br />the final line of my review was pretty damning too. Leads me to believe that female SF/F critics only go after men who didn't like this book (wait, isn't that ummm, sexist??), or I'm completely under the radar.Andrea Jhttp://littleredreviewer.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17224228.post-38682276907417235852014-02-14T10:04:41.556-07:002014-02-14T10:04:41.556-07:00>> I still thought Ancillary Justice was bor...>> I still thought Ancillary Justice was boring and an overall mediocre book. <<<br /><br />And that's okay. Not every book works for every reader. Not Hugo award winning books. Not "Canonical classics". NOTHING. Paul Weimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444942522624902562noreply@blogger.com